I think it’s safe to assume that Sam Allardyce’s approval rating amongst the Irons faithful is at an all time high…though there are a few dissenters within our ranks and I would ask of them this very simple and pertinent question…just what do you want?
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When Sam took over in the summer of 2011 the club were a joke; we’d just gone down, were losing our best players at a rate of knots and were absolutely desperate to get back asap by any means necessary.
Now we may have not won the Championship in a swashbuckling manner but we did get back at the first time of asking which isn’t easy; just ask fans of Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers and Bolton Wanderers who are discovering this season that slipping in to the league below isn’t simply just an inevitable procession back to the Promised Land.
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This season we are sitting in 11th place with 13 games to go and a massive nine points clear of the drop zone; those of you that for some bizarre and unfathomable reason want Sam out would you not have taken this at the start of the season? Would you not have taken this when Charles N’Zogbia’s last second winner at the DW Stadium sent us spiralling into the Championship?!
Those of you who want Sam out and I simply have to believe it’s a minority otherwise I do fear for the sanity of our fanbase just take a look at the players that Sam has attracted to the club in his 18 odd months at West Ham: Joe Cole, Andy Carroll, Kevin Nolan, Matt Jarvis and Mohamed Diame to name a few; are these not the quality of players we want to be watching on a weekly basis?
Now of course we’ve had a tough time of it lately; we were on a poor run of form up until the win over Swansea but considering our ONLY objective this season was to stay up the fact that at no point this season have we been below 13th speaks volumes for the job Sam is doing.
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I really do believe given time and money Sam can incrementally improve West Ham in the same fashion and manner David Moyes has done at Everton, and to those that want him out I ask you to look at where the club was when Sam arrived and where it is currently…if that transformation isn’t good enough for you then I simply don’t know what it is you want and I suspect you don’t know either.
None of the teams you mentioned had the best team by far in the Championship. We still needed the playoffs. Kevin Nolan has been poor this season. Matt Jarvis has been a complete waste of 11 million. Joe Cole pushed the deal through. Diame had 2 offers on the table. I wouldnt say he has attracted quality big names in fact with the money he has been given he hasnt spent it wisely. Maiga is class but Sam spent 5 mil on a player he clearly isnt going to use.
We are not playing good football and we could be doing better.
Also, I am fed up of this I am a better fan than you rubbish. Just because you like Big Sam doesnt meanthose who dont are stupid or as you put it make you fear the fan base. Everyone has an opinion and is allowed an opinion.
I want us to be spending money wisely and on good quality players that perform. I want us to be reaching our potential as a team. In my opinion we didn’t reach that last season and we aren’t anywhere near it now and that is down to the system Big Sam uses. The aim may be to not get relegated but wanting the team to reach its potential is the actual goal and Big Sam said at the start of the season he thinks we can be top 10. So by his own admission he is not achieving his goals.
quite agree fat sam aint cutting it players out of position strikers bought and got rid of sam must have big man up front,frighten to use r hall up front with maiga,no long ball up to carrol sick of it.
Any West Ham “fan” who wants Sam out is a complete half wit who has no idea about football
Tony you are the half wit, or a spurs fan. West Ham play football the West Ham way, not northern monkey football. BFS out. So I have this opinion i know nothing about football. I have was brought up watching Brooking Bonds Devonshire Martin ect I watched football as it should be played. Go and learn a bit about the club you say you support.
That’s the problem with “fans” like you, just never happy! Stop living in the dark ages mate… were not happy with avram I’m sure, and still not happy in the prem with SA. Can please some of the people some of the time, not all the people all the time aye!
Nothing wrong with fans having an opinion Ryan. There is something wrong with saying you are a rubbish fan because you dont like Sam. Opinions are what make the game what it is, stop trying to suppress it.
Chris you still dont know jack about football,
Or have a very very short memory. Playing the west ham way got us relegated remember,and have been crap playing that way for years. Without sam we would have alot less points,Let him do his job.To be honest our squad is just about good enough for the premiership. Did you also forget we are in debt of over 100 million pounds. We cant buy to many players. If you look at every team sam bossedthey were all relegated. Hello wake up if sam is sacked we will go down 100%. What is it you people want top 6-7 hahahahaha not with our squad dream on.
By the sounds of it SA is the only reason we are where we are today. has nothing to do with the owners.
We were in a mess because of the combination of previous owners and managers. It would not be hard to improve on those years.
Arguments are always healthy. Your SA will improve us incrementally I think is floored due to SA’s limitations of having nothing more than a Plan A. Other managers have out managed him and more and more will because he doesn’t change.
I don’t believe he is a bad manager, just a manger with limits.
Sometimes people should be careful what they wish for. Liverpool fans thought Dalglish was the answer to their prayers and it proved to be the wrong decision. We need to stay up this Season and regroup next. I am sure that many players that gave been on the wish list have not wanted to come we need to prove ourselves. Sam got us up and l think just because we had a good start people had to higher expectations.Lets get behind the Manager and the team What happened to the Word UNITED
Who makes these stories up Sam is doing a great job and iam 100% behind him. Who stands to win with West Ham in the championship it has to come from a spud fan. So what am saying is any person who you here coming out with they want Sam out is deep down a spud fan
We are all entitled to our own opinions…but what I would say is that when Sam took over we were in the champ…18 months later we’re midtable in the prem. If that is not good enough for those that want him out then I’m afraid you’re being extremely naïve, ungrateful and unrealistic.
just what is it you lot want – Sam came into west ham when Avram Grant (remember him) got us relegated.
Sam promised to get us back to PL at the first time of asking – he did that. we had a great start to our season – o.k we have lost a few but so has Man City – Man United and Chelsea.
what I say to you lot that want him out – if you don’t our manager you get out.
Well…to answer the question in the headline…some fans are naive. Clinging to some romantic ideal of a “west ham way” or suggesting that there is one “right” way to play football is, like is said, naive at best. Over the past 15-20 years football has become more and more pragmatic. It has become less entertainment and more business. And, like with any business it is the end result that matters most. So far, Sam’s end result is good. He has achieved his first objective in getting us promoted and is on course for his second (keeping us up).
Did we play too negatively at times? …yes. Did we also play some nice footy at times?…definitely. And with a few more additions come summer i have no doubt our game will improve. At the moment we are missing a right winger and proper pacey full-backs. Even if we assume that Spence is ready to slot in at RB that still leaves LB and RW. If we do invest in the summer, and next season Sam doesnt seem able to achieve whatever objective he and the board agree to, then i will be asking myself if it is time to change managers but not before.
The one thing i do hold against Sam is his refusal to bench Nolan even when he is off-form. Personally i would rather see J.Cole play there due to his distribution but so long as Sam delivers on his objective i will indulge him in his selection.
Aaahh so now we are naive because we dont like paying 800 quid for a season ticket to go watch the rubbish Sam produces. Ever since Sam has come in he has mistreated class players, wasted 11 mil on Jarvis, has his blatant favourites and we are extremely negative 80% of the time. Sorry for not being happy with that. We could be doing better in the league, happy of we dont get relegated but I always want what we have the potential to do, not just happy with run of the mill…
wow…im glad all the couch/sunday school managers are here to tell us these things. If 11th in the league for a newly promoted side is rubbish to you then you are blind. I’d rather have Sam and his style then try to play so called pretty football (which i dont give a rats ass about) and promote our oh so talented youth players and end up like Villa who are in relegation spots.
What class players?…Maiga?!?…yeah cause he impressed so much at ACON right?!?!
Wasted 11 mil on Jarvis…way to jump on the bandwagon mate. If you had followed the player you would know that it takes him a while to settle. It was the same when he moved to Wolves. Add to that the fact that he is playing inside now rather then hugging the touchline which he must get used to. He hasnt been that bad really and will get better. Talk to me this time next year and if he still hasnt improved ill agree it was a waste of money.
I absolutely love it when people that have absolutely no idea what it means to manage a team, especially at prem level, blabber on about this or that. If anyone thinks their football know-how is so great they should get a license and start managing themselves…sheesh.
Diarra was playing international football when he came to us mate, yes I would say he is class. Maiga was class at his old club and Vaz Te was class for us last season. All been mistreated. Collison is a class player, been mistreated. I don’t care what time it takes him to settle, he has still been rubbish for us and his 1 goal and 0 assists prove that. You’re chatting telling me to go manage, if you know so much why don’t you go and get to the top level and prove me wrong?
Also, there is a difference to promoting youth and having your whole team picked of youth mate. Plus, I am 19 and actually play football rather than coach school teams as you so eloquently put it. As I keep commenting, you are not a better fan because you like Big Sam so stop pretending you are. You like him, I don’t, what is the point in the hand bags mate.
Mate…heres the thing. Diarra, Maiga and Vaz were “class” (if you can call it that) in foreign or lower leagues. Not in the premier league which is a notoriously difficult league. Diarra came after an injury and both Diame and Noble were playing well yet he expected to just be handed a starter spot??…i think not. As for Collison, he just came back after a long injury and he is still not at the level he used to be. Give it time. As for Jarvis, you are entitled to your opinion…i am willing to put money on the fact that he will come good for us.
Also, i have nothing to prove. I’m not the one claiming i know better then a proven prem manager with various “suggestions” regarding what Sam
should or shouldnt do.
And its not even about being a better fan as you put it.I just support the team and i support the manager. I do not agree with everything he does mind you – like not benching Nolan for a game or two. I would like J.Cole to play centrally behind AC rather then wide. I would like Spence to start at RB…etc. Still i can acknowledge that so far he has done a good job. With a few additions in the summer we might even be top 10 material. Right now though…there is no just cause to sack Sam regardless of the style of football you prefer…the table speaks for itself.
Fair enough mate. In my articles about him I say he has done well but I don’t like what we are becoming under him. That is my main problem with him. The way the squad is shaping up and the lack of giving new signings a chance really gets on my nerves. As you say, he has done a good job but has he done miracles? Not in my opinion, nowhere near in fact. Whilst I hate his team selections and tactics it is what we are becoming and what we will be like as a team in 1 years,2 years and 3 years time under him that worries me. Yes Big Sam is PL proven but he is not the sort of PL proven manager I want at West Ham with his negative style etc
There is one word that describes a growing number of West Ham United Supporters……..
DELUDED…..with the collective memories of goldfish!
Since when did we morph into Chelski, Citeh or Manure?
It’s painful to realise that we aren’t streets ahead in the football knowledge stakes. Lets learn to crawl before we start sprinting!
You repeatedly comment on these articles slating your fellow West Ham fans. Grow up and accept that opinions are part of the game. Just because people disagree with you doesn’t mean they are deluded mate. Never heard or seen West Ham fans like you before, since when did we start slating our own fan base?
Listen Hugh, my opinion is that the perspective that you’re coming from IS deluded because you’re neglecting to factor in the position we were in a few seasons ago.
If you don’t like my opinion or you feel that I’m slating people with the same short term memory as yourself………..Tough!
I’ve supported West Ham for over 40 years now and I’ve heard all the nonsense I’m ever likely to hear and seen it too! I’m NOT fazed by your views and you’re entitled to them, just as I am mine. So don’t get all high and mighty and moral with me because it doesn’t wash!
todays performance is why tactically inept
Don’t really like big Sam or some of the current squad. But i just love west ham fans, we are one big family just going through another topsy turvy season together. We will always have the best fans no matter where we are in terms of football.But it would be nice if we were in the top 10.
Sam,must take the game to the opposition more particularly at home or against teams in the lower half of the table.
He promised results albeit with a more direct style than we have been used to.We are not getting the results but we are playing the long ball!
We needed a result against Aston Villa and he played Andy Carroll up front and kept Jarvis on the bench! he always has an excuse and according to Sam we are the unluckiest team in the premiership.I watched the Aston Villa game but his summary did not reflect the match that I watched.!
I hope we survive this year and that the owners do not give him another contract.
Your all very stupid, Sam is a wonderful manager. Last season we was in the championship and now look at us! Finished 10th in the premier league. You all must be blind if you want sam out!