The looming threat of relegation grows larger and larger, half the season has now come and gone and we’ve only tasted sweet victory on a meagre three occasions. Now what’s really scary is that in the 2nd half of the season we’re going to have to win roughly triple the amount of games accrued in the first half to have any chance of remaining amongst the elite.
The upcoming transfer window is going to be the most crucial the club has ever known, relegation is unthinkable with the impending move to Stratford, the first game at the Olympic Stadium needs to be a Premier League one, if it isn’t then the stadium could be the death of West Ham and not the platform to propel us on from perennial relegation fights to fighting for European spots.
The last time we were relegated from the top flight under Avram Grant; David Gold and David Sullivan brought in Demba Ba and Robbie Keane in the January transfer window in an effort to blast our way out of trouble…it ultimately didn’t work, even with on paper a fearsome looking strike-force our defensive frailties ended up costing us; most memorably against Wigan Athletic at the DW Stadium in the game that saw our relegation confirmed in the most ‘typical West Ham’ fashion possible…I just hope history isn’t about to repeat itself.
So with half the season gone and with only three wins to show for it; what evidence is there to suggest that in the 2nd half of the campaign we can triple the amount of wins? Unfortunately very little, the owners will predictably chuck cash at the situation and that may help, we will get our key injured trio back in Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing and Winston Reid and that will certainly help but can we honestly win 8/9 of the remaining 19 games? I’m not convinced.
The threat of relegation is real and at this moment in time we’re nailed on. If by some miracle we survive this season serious questions need to be asked about the manager and the quality of this squad…if we go down then one can’t help but feel the decision to move to the Olympic Stadium could rather ironically destroy this great club.
Buying just a striker in January will not be enough to avoid relegation, three or four quality additions are needed, please, please, please, no more , over the hill, paceless players added to the squad.
Maybe we should admit to (re)open discussion with Leyton Orient
I don’t really understand the logic. Why does being in the Olympic Stadium in the championship destroy the club?
More importantly, why do questions need to be asked about the manager at the end of the season. Why not now? Why not a month ago?
It seems everyone is jumping on the worry wagon and I see why but mindless panic and booing isnt what is needed, in tough times mindless support is what is needed. We have striker issues but we could have easily been 2 or 3 up against arsenal before Walcotts shot dribbled in. When I watch i dont feel panic its more frustration, like a piece of a puzzle is missing. We have ravel who looks hungry I just hope he can have a striker to play off so another striker and get andy off the sofa and back on the pitch, make teams worry about coming to upton park and feel unsafe at their own home. COYI
Get Sam out now he’s toothless approach and complete lack of tactical forward thinking, enough is enough. Bring in Bilic and let him bring in 4/5 players in the window and give us a chance to survive. They backed grant when we knew he wasn’t capable it s the same with Sam, completely out of his depth. We wi finish bottom if he stays I’m convinced all the clubs around us have acted what are they waiting for ,a miracle?
West Ham have to win the next game against West Brom. That is all there is to it, and that 3 points will only put us on a tally of a lousy 17 pts from 19 games. West Ham won 23 pts from their remaining 19 games last season, but we have to have Carroll back soon otherwise it will be too late, as we know from QPR’s experience, it is impossible to catch up when you are too far back. The owners can’t say they have spent the budget because even the team that finishes 20th this season, will receive 60 million from the FA. Sam, the show is almost over. You have to show us what you can do with the team in preparation for a win tomorow, as with no win, there’ll be 26 pts required, and who knows how many will be required to stay up, as we went down with 42 in 2003. Sam you have had 2 & 1/2 years to build a team. The buck stops now, or else walk now and don’t wait until we are down before walking, because if you stay then you’d better bloody well make sure we stay up, as out of the Prem a team losses their world-wide TV exposure, and yes, this hash of things you and the team are making is embarassingly being broadcast around the world, and is an absolute embarassment amoung ex-pats in front of the locals. Almost everyone of the people who follow the Prem in over 200 countries around the world mainly follow Man U & Liverpool because they bloody well win. We want wins as we’ve only had a lousy 3 all season so far. We’ve had a gutfull. Start winning!
And Frenchammer, yes, I’ve had the same thought in talking with Leyton Orient as if we do go down to the Championship then we’ll need their half share of the rent being 1 million. And Alex, if West ham play in the Olympic Stadium while in the Championship, can you try and imagine the atmoshere of a half empty stadium, probably less than half empty. It will be like a ghost town. Part of me says we should go down, so we can keep our beloved Boleyn ground. Even Arsenal had a job aclimatising to the Emirates Stadium. Only a big club can fill a big stadium & West ham ain’t a big club. I reckon we should all, as fans complain to the FA about the club ignoring our wishes to stay in the Boleyn ground. Turn the Boleyn into a 40,000+ seater and then move to a bigger stadium later and buy the bloody thing, don’t rent it. Look at Coventry? A club that owns nothing becomes NOTHING!!!
I would have thought that all the evidence shows that it is only the Olympic Stadium that gives us a snowball in Hells chance of realistically having anything but an occasional visit to the premiership. Teams we would never consider actual rivals now have financial clout we can only dream of and the status quo would simply ensure a declining fan base and marginisation that would be a shocking end to a great club with unrivalled potential if played right. Sadly we have seen of late that the present management for all their protestations of professionalism are little or no better than previous encumbrants. Only clowns could get us relegated this season. Sadly we have coco in charge.
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was bloody tough for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham & I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that shit hole is built on a nuclear waste dump. http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/2013/07/22/how-to-respond-to-an-anti-conspiracy-theorist/ The Olympic Stadium will bury West Ham, because they won’t fill it.
Thank heavens they aren’t buying a nuclear waste dump, and the Alpari stand at Upton Park with a 15,000 capacity, is the biggest football stand in London. It is the newest stand at the Boleyn ground. It was only built in 2001 and cost £16,000,000 to build. Why throw money away? In 2009 club CEO Scott Duxbury revealed, in an interview with a West Ham fan website, that there was planning permission to expand the East Stand to take capacity to over 40,000, but all of this may be irrelevant after today anyway, because if we are still on only 14 or 15 points by this evening then relegation is what is happening, so West ham could end up relegated, and later not even own their own stadium and be pleading with Leyton Orient to go halves in the Stadium rent while they pay all of these expensive wages to players they can’t afford. Go down to the Championship West Ham. Stay in your Boleyn ground home and survive, or else we’ll be wound up. FINISHED. To the 2 Davids. Do you understand? Or do you not have enough grey material to comprehend the circumstances. 2016 would be 121 years of history & memories for myself, my family and many who were raised in East London, finished! I don’t know where your from spy but this club is our heritage & we don’t want it sold as developement to overseas foreign interests.
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was really tough going for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham, & Steve is a really nice guy. I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that shit hole is built on a nuclear waste dump. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/20/radioactive-waste-olympic-site The Olympic Stadium will bury West Ham, because they won’t fill it.
Thank heavens they aren’t buying a nuclear waste dump, and the Alpari stand at Upton Park with a 15,000 capacity, is the biggest football stand in London. It is the newest stand at the Boleyn ground. It was only built in 2001 and cost £16,000,000 to build. Why throw money away? In 2009 club CEO Scott Duxbury revealed, in an interview with a West Ham fan website, that there was planning permission to expand the East Stand to take capacity to over 40,000, but all of this may be irrelevant after today anyway, because if we are still on only 14 or 15 points by this evening then relegation is what is happening, so West ham could end up relegated, and later not even own their own stadium and be pleading with Leyton Orient to go halves in the Stadium rent while they pay all of these expensive wages to players they can’t afford. Go down to the Championship West Ham. Stay in your Boleyn ground home and survive, or else we’ll be wound up. FINISHED. To the 2 Davids. Do you understand? Or do you not have enough grey material to comprehend the circumstances. 2016 would be 121 years of history & memories for myself, my family and many who were raised in East London, finished! I don’t know where your from spy but this club is our heritage & we don’t want it sold as developement to overseas foreign interests.
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was really tough going for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham, & Steve is a really nice guy. I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that shit hole is built on a nuclear waste dump. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/20/radioactive-waste-olympic-site
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was bloody tough for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham & I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that shit hole is built on a nuclear waste dump. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/20/radioactive-waste-olympic-site The Olympic Stadium will bury West Ham, because they won’t fill it.
Thank heavens they aren’t buying a nuclear waste dump, and the Alpari stand at Upton Park with a 15,000 capacity, is the biggest football stand in London. It is the newest stand at the Boleyn ground. It was only built in 2001 and cost £16,000,000 to build. Why throw money away? In 2009 club CEO Scott Duxbury revealed, in an interview with a West Ham fan website, that there was planning permission to expand the East Stand to take capacity to over 40,000, but all of this may be irrelevant after today anyway, because if we are still on only 14 or 15 points by this evening then relegation is what is happening, so West ham could end up relegated, and later not even own their own stadium and be pleading with Leyton Orient to go halves in the Stadium rent while they pay all of these expensive wages to players they can’t afford. Go down to the Championship West Ham. Stay in your Boleyn ground home and survive, or else we’ll be wound up. FINISHED. To the 2 Davids. Do you understand? Or do you not have enough grey material to comprehend the circumstances. 2016 would be 121 years of history & memories for myself, my family and many who were raised in East London, finished! I don’t know where most people on this site are from but this club is our heritage & we don’t want it sold as developement to overseas foreign interests.
Get Sam out NOW,
14 pts from 54 = a percentage rate of 26% from 18 games played so far, and is a course for only 30 pts, being the same as what Avram Grant achieved in the 2010/2011 season when West Ham were relegated. West Ham have to get 26 pts or around 8 wins & 8 draws, with only 4 losses from the next 20 games to up the percentage rate to around 40% from now to get the same figure of 46 pts that they achieved last year. 7 wins and 5 draws will equal the absolute minimum required to reach 40 pts and possibly survive. Possibly because West Ham were relegated in 2003 on 42 pts.
Make a Progress Chalk Board before Round 19 v West Brom & Call Everyone To Arms with 20 games left to play To Cheer Every Point Home Towards Every Final Whistle;
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Draws:
Losses:
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was bloody tough for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham & I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that shit hole is built on a nuclear waste dump.
I don’t think the owners want to sack Sam, because they know that the club’s current plight is their fault. Sam can only work with who he has got in front of him. The owners have not made the funds available. Maybe they don’t have the funds. I do think that Sam is very stubborn and that a change of manager would be the right thing to do, but I wouldn’t call him Coco the clown, he is a shrewd northerner who was at one stage tipped for the England job & he damned well knows footbal inside out, but he is stuck with working with a bunch of nobodies for a team. Alan Pardew has no grudge with the present owners & may have came back last year. Alan took us to Wembley (well Cardiff anyway) in 2006 and is doing really well with Newcastle now so there’s no need for him personally to come back, other than the fact that he is a Londoner & loves West Ham, as does Harry. The going was bloody tough for Steve Bruce working under these 2 at Birmingham & I don’t think too many managers &/or players want a job here. I just wish they would sell this club to someone who has money instead of grabbing their loyal suffering fans money to watch a 2nd rate, cut price team. Get out and give a new owner a go. Even Alan Curbishley has joined Fulham. All of the old faithfull don’t want to come near this place, and feck the Olympic Stadium, that s**** hole is built on a nuclear waste dump.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/20/radioactive-waste-olympic-site The Olympic Stadium will bury West Ham, because they won’t fill it.
Thank heavens they aren’t buying a nuclear waste dump, and the Alpari stand at Upton Park with a 15,000 capacity, is the biggest football stand in London. It is the newest stand at the Boleyn ground. It was only built in 2001 and cost £16,000,000 to build. Why throw money away? In 2009 club CEO Scott Duxbury revealed, in an interview with a West Ham fan website, that there was planning permission to expand the East Stand to take capacity to over 40,000, but all of this may be irrelevant after today anyway, because if we are still on only 14 or 15 points by this evening then relegation is what is happening, so West ham could end up relegated, and later not even own their own stadium and be pleading with Leyton Orient to go halves in the Stadium rent while they pay all of these expensive wages to players they can’t afford. Go down to the Championship West Ham. Stay in your Boleyn ground home and survive, or else we’ll be wound up. FINISHED. To the 2 Davids. Do you understand? Or do you not have enough grey material to comprehend the circumstances. 2016 would be 121 years of history & memories for myself, my family and many who were raised in East London, finished! I don’t know where most people on this site are from but this club is our heritage & we don’t want it sold as developement to overseas foreign interests.
There are always issues at west ham it is our way after all. In forty years I have never known us not to be doing something odd! However the current state is still recoverable as whatever goes on off the pitch it is the team that gets the points and ultimately the manager who picks them . I have run kids and adult teams, as I am sure many hammers fans do and I just can’t understand his team, tactics and players. You simply cannot play passengers, Nolan and C Cole have no impact on 90 minutes of play. Cole may be getting goals but he does nothing else. In the last game he only won 3 attacking headers and he is our centre forward.Maiga wins that in five minutes ! Nolan has now missed two cheeky free kicks from Noble and has cost us both times. Sam went with Diame as the support ( I think he was meant to anyway) for Cole and left Nolan as a midfielder. Nolan just isn’t a midfielder any more. As Nolan and Cole are so ineffectual we keep losing the midfield and getting beat.
Owners not doing their homework!
Firstly, they bring in Avram Grant who helped relegate Pompey and then secured our plight to the championship.
Then they get Sam and we bounce back straight away and have a good 1st season, only to buy a striker with an ankle injury for a club record 15m; remind you of any one? (Dean Ashton clubs record signing who retired – ANKLE INJURY).
Now season two in the Premier which is as hard, if not harder than the first season back and we spend 21m strengthening the squad; 15m of that on Carroll and expect to stay in the top flight.
Don’t get me wrong Andy Carroll is a quality player and we need that, but they should have told Liverpool they would only buy him after his injury and after he had played a few games; Dean Ashton never recovered from his injury and the games he played he was not the same.
Get Demba ba in for season loan and let him fill the striker role which he can and then look at another striker so we can have ba, cole, and carroll + one!
Oh and Cesar in goal from QPR.
the buck stops with bfs playing the mega negative 4 5 1 formation has got such a low points tally its untrue even with ac fit it would still be 451 why not try 433 and try kids we cant do worse than lose every week can we but this has to be judgement day for allardyce maximum pts and nothing less or sams resignation and get someone in who actually likes strikers