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In 2003, West Ham were relegated from the Premier League following a disastrous season despite having quality players in the starting line-up, including some of the finest talent produced in England over the past 15 years. The likes of Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Glen Johnson and Jermain Defoe were all pivotal players in the West Ham team alongside the likes of Paolo Di Canio, Freddie Kanoute and David James.

Although this was a team with good players, some of which would go on to represent England in World Cups and play in the Champions League, the Hammers struggled all season and were

relegated, despite beating Chelsea in both the home and away fixture.

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After this relegation, many of the future England stars departed. Joe Cole and Glen Johnson both went to Chelsea, where their footballing careers really took off. Cole made more than 150

appearances for the Blues and established himself as an England regular and Johnson played 41times for Chelsea between 2003 and 2007 before moving to Portsmouth and then to Liverpool. Johnson also made his first England appearance a few months after the move across London.

Despite relegation, West Ham managed to keep hold of both Michael Carrick and Jermain Defoe. However, they both had different ambitions about the following season, with Defoe handing in a transfer request 24 hours after relegation was confirmed. West Ham rejected his request and Defoe ending up playing the first half of the 03-04 season in the Championship with the Hammers, before being sold to arch rivals Tottenham in the January transfer window. Carrick was openly critical of many of the West Ham players who left after relegation and he stayed on to play for West Ham in the Championship, where they reached the playoff final, only to lose to Crystal Palace. After one season in the then First Division, Carrick expressed his desire to play in the Premier League and was signed by Tottenham for £3.5m. Both these players have had successful international careers with Carrick winning the Premier League on 4 occasions with Manchester United and also winning the Champions League in 2008 after a penalty shootout victory over Chelsea.

 

The selling status which clouds over West Ham United is evident when you look back at the players which were sold after relegation in 2003. But even before that, England Legends Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard were both sold by West Ham. Although the ‘Lampard saga’ is different to that of Rio’s, they were both extremely talent young players, who had come through the West Ham academy and looked as if they could have long lasting careers at Upton Park. It wasn’t to be.

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The problem lies with the belief that West Ham is a ‘feeder club’ for the big teams in the Premier League. Harry Redknapp, who was in charge of West Ham when Rio Ferdinand was sold, said “Why should we sell Rio Ferdinand? Are we a Premier League club or are we just a feeder club for bigger clubs? If we start selling players like Rio, where is the club going to go?” Well Harry, this club, that has seen players such as Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst, Trevor Brooking, Paolo Di Canio and many England players who have been an integral part of the national team over the past few years, has been yo-yoing between the Premier League and the Championship, seeing many top quality players leave, managers sacked and owners change. All this makes me very sad.

For me, my West Ham heroes are the players that I grew up with. I grew up idolising the likes of Joe Cole and Michael Carrick. I had every poster, calendar and annual imaginable with the pictures of Cole and Carrick cut out and stuck onto my bedroom wall. I used to watch the game when West Ham beat Manchester United 1-0 at Old Trafford over and over again, watching Defoe head home a

winner, delighting thousands of the East End faithful who had made the long trip up to Manchester. I used to watch Cole weave through defences, copying his style around my living room furniture before blasting the rolled up socks passed the helpless coffee table through to kitchen door before running around celebrating. As a kid, I loved these players and seeing them leave broke my heart. However it’s not just relegation that sees top West Ham players being sold.

Alan Curbishley resigned as West Ham manager after both Anton Ferdinand and George McCartney were sold without Curbishley knowing any deal was being agreed for the pair. Supposedly it was the same story with Bobby Zamora. Due to the global economic crisis and an extravagant wage bill the Icelandic owners were forced to sell players, which further reinforced the notion that West Ham is a selling club.

It seems that a significant reason for the sale of many top players is due to financial instability either due to relegation or global financial meltdown coupled with very poor management of player wages.

However, the sale of Ferdinand and Lampard was when West Ham were not in serious financial trouble and were not threatened with relegation. Lampard left when Redknapp and his father were

sacked in 2001 and Ferdinand left in 2000 after both Redknapp and the owner at the time Terry Brown categorically stated that Ferdinand was not for sale. However, on the 21st of November

2000, Redknapp confirmed that the club had accepted a bid from Leeds worth a record £18m. The difference between the two is that Lampard wanted to leave, whereas there was no real intent

from Ferdinand to leave the club. All he was concerned with was playing for the club and regaining a place in the England team for the World Cup which was coming up in just less than two years.

But the extravagant bid from Leeds was enough to tempt Brown into selling the defender, who Redknapp said had more ‘ability’ than Bobby Moore, who has gone onto captain England and make

81 appearances for the national side.

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Where the selling culture began for the Hammers is unclear, though it is likely that it stemmed from the Ferdinand transfer. Whatever the cause of this cloud which seems to hover over the club famed for nurturing such wonderful talent, it has caused a club which could have been so successful, led by the likes of Ferdinand, Carrick and Cole, to fall into the Championship and never fully regain the Premier League status that it deserves. If this selling culture is not stopped, we could see the likes of

Noble, Tomkins and Collison, all good players who have come through the ranks at Upton Park and have become fan favourites, being sold to the top clubs and this vicious cycle will continue.

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15 comments

  • Dan says:

    The answer is yes. You have very little left that anyone wants to buy. You also play unattractive football and deserve to remain in the championship.

  • Stoney says:

    Arch rivals tottenham. Don’t think so. You’re just a small eastend club run by two dildo salesmen. Another couple of years in the championship is the best you can hope for. Perhaps even further relegation.

  • Kevtheyid says:

    #twoboboutfit.but you have no good kids left to sell.

  • Billy the yid says:

    No.

  • paul f says:

    You think wham became a selling club only with the sale of Ferdinand? Have you know greater knowledge of your club? Wham has sold its best players ever since football began. The only true high quality players the club ever hung onto long term were Moore and Brooking, though the true quality of the latter is highly questionable (having spent a decent chunk of his career in the lower leagues). Where do you think Peters went after finding fame? Spurs. Hurst? Chelsea. Cottee? Everton. Bilic? Everton. Parker? Spurs. Even Dicks was sold off to Liverpool, despite being woefully out of his depth.

    You seem like a smart enough kid, so take some advice. Wham is what it is. A second tier club that sells its better players. Second tier fan base, second tier finances. Just the way of the world. It’s where you are in the food chain. You complaining about losing players to the likes of Spurs is no different to Bristol City fans moaning about losing the likes of Maynard to you. And frankly though Wham fans like to see themselves as having some kind of rivalry with Spurs, the reality is Spurs fans view Wham in the same way that Wham fans view Millwall or Orient. A loud mouthed but harmless inferior neighbour

  • seattlespursguy says:

    Can we be arch rivals when the rivalry runs only one way?

    Anyway, to answer the article’s question, yes, West Ham are a selling club; they have been for years. This will continue as long as asset stripping owners control the team. Anyone thinking the porn barons are in it for the good and glory of West Ham are seriously mistaken.

  • Leery says:

    West Ham feeder club no more no less. Even allardyce says he struggles to find what the famed “west ham way” is? He has never come across it. It’s like no one can define it. He says west ham way must be losing. The west ham fans are biggest deluded bunch of fans in uk. There only claim to fame “west ham won the world cup in 66”. History reeks of desperation. what a shit club. They’ve even fucked up their own premier league push by giving their team so much stick and abuse they can’t play effectively at home and have dropped so many points at home they will be lucky to make play offs. Supporters my arse!!

    • Brendan says:

      Lucky to make playoffs? C’mon now. Trolling is trolling but when we are 11 points adrift from 6 spot playoffs looks in tact.

  • whudan says:

    I think the last 10-15 years have been very turbulent. We have had money grabbing owners, “billionaire” owners (that didn’t actually have any cash). Spuds fans shouldn’t even comment on this as they don’t have a clue about our club. I think the current owners are good for the club. They have ambition and used personal cash to fund transfers. I believe if we get promoted and settle in the premier league we can get rid of this feeder club tag. COYI!!

  • Essexian76 says:

    History will tell you the answer to your question-which is and has always been a resounding YES.
    Peters-Allen-Defoe-Carrick I could go on, but it’s so embarrassing, West Ham are Tottenham-Arsenal and now even Chelsea’s feeder club as they’ve got the resources to think they’re a BIG club, but fairs fair as we always flog you our has-beens to end their playing days without the pressure of high expectation Greaves, Dimitrescu-Mitchell Thomas-Chris Hughton-Ian Wright-Freddie Lungberg-I could go, it’s embarrassing-but bloody funny!

  • Yidango says:

    Arch rivals?????

  • Will says:

    If we are so insignificant to you Spurs fans why are you always on our websites? We just hate you cos your a bunch of muppets that know little to nothing about football but why hate us?
    Come the day old Arry (if England see sense and don’t take him) ruins you I for one will be saying I told you so. And yes most of the time we will be a feeder club as we are in the position of yo yoing between leagues but a bit of stabilityin the financilas is all that is needed to cement our place at the top table and that will come.

  • Billy says:

    In hindsight the sales of Lamps-Ferd-Cole-Johnson have cost the club money, not earnt them any.

    You sold many of these players before they reached their potential. Imagine what you could have achieved with a team looking like this.

    James-Johnson-Ferd-Upson-McCartney-Carrick-Lampard-Noble-J.Cole-Defoe-Zamora

    With one or 2 good signings you could have been pushing for CL. Instead the selling of players who had their best years ahead of them has proven to be a false economy.

    Spurs Fan.

  • Reece says:

    It never fails to amuse me how many small minded, genuinely pathetic spurs fans read all West Ham articles just to try and make themselves feel better. It’s so sad. Get back to your miserable lives and pathetic existence’s. You all think your something special but the real reason you hate us so much is that you have no history, you would kill for even sniff at the culture at West Ham. So continue on being the whores of the football world, times change and it wont last forever. Plus, id rather dwell in the football leagues forever than reside myself to a life as an arrogant, pig headed, small minded spurs fan. You get to feel good about yourself for a few hours a week when your team plays, but you’ve got to live the rest of your time as a sad lonely individual. I know what I choose. Enjoy the rest of your pathetic existence. Maybe one day we’ll meet again, and like usual we’ll see you cowards running for your lives after the final whistle. I you even last that long.

    • Essexian76 says:

      Open top bus ride for a 6th place finish in the championship?, oh, that’s classy alright!

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